force everybody into the private system and we're seeing the future now and we'll see the future in massachusetts. >> what we're saying on the kudlow report we should have just had single payer, national health insurance, everybody, make medicare applicable to everybody in the country. i'm fine with that. >> medicaid -- >> do it right now. i'm 100% -- >> that's a great compromise position. >> great compromise position, medicaid for everybody. >> that's not my view. >> that's my view. >> it's medicaid not medicare. >> he said medicare. >> i don't want that. i want free choice. i want different tax reforms. >> you want what we had before. >> look. i want to give the tax break to the family and the individual. not the employer. i want people to have choice. look why should -- >> they are getting a tax credit. >> they are not. >> which is better. >> they won't get a tax credit. >> everybody can get the tax break. everybody buy insurance. >> huge tax increase. >> there's no such thing as a free lunch. the basic thing about medicaid is you get basic catastrophic coverage and do tax credits for people t